tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7188858439852729115.post8135267973605248985..comments2023-05-22T03:04:42.242-05:00Comments on Dame Eleanor Hull: Teaching grads, 2: for students, before you startDame Eleanor Hullhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06512884104691200975noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7188858439852729115.post-26574090003888399802010-06-10T14:17:25.418-05:002010-06-10T14:17:25.418-05:00You could send your students to my English history...You could send your students to my English history classes. Then we'd have the enrollments to justify English history classes :)<br /><br />As an early modernist, I've given up expecting students (except those who want to work on my field) know anything about the period before they walk in the door. <br /><br />But I do want curiosity and a work ethic.Susanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09716705206734059708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7188858439852729115.post-4349788657000544822010-06-05T21:43:18.198-05:002010-06-05T21:43:18.198-05:00These are good qualifications. I wonder if the pa...These are good qualifications. I wonder if the part about knowing chronology and basic ideas is going to get harder and harder to expect, however, since we are now supposed to jump away from "coverage" as a model as though it were a nest of snakes.undinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05589384016564587214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7188858439852729115.post-1375492491049940282010-06-05T17:50:03.892-05:002010-06-05T17:50:03.892-05:00"Appreciation and enthusiasm for even the kin..."Appreciation and enthusiasm for even the kind of literature they don't want to specialize in."<br /><br />OMG, *YES*. *Please*!<br /><br />That goes along with DEH's "intellectual curiosity" paragraph.<br /><br />As for the rest, I *wish* for it all, but don't *expect* any of it (except maybe the paragraph on writing and the one on doing research, because we, too, have a research methods class and I usually teach it so I *know* what they were taught in it).<br /><br />I know it seems a little sad, but ours is a terminal MA program, and many students come from undergrad programs, like our own, where they can get away with taking a single course on pre-1800 literature, and many have avoided courses that expect them to discuss poetry (i.e., its prosody rather than its content) in any rigorous way, so I'd be expecting too much to expect all of this of them. But some it can be taught quickly. In fact, DEH, I bet you could give them your second paragraph at the beginning of the semester - and voila!<br /><br />And the thing is, I think I'd rather have the skills in paragraphs 3-6 and the attitude in paragraph 7 over the basic knowledge in paragraph 2. But the sad truth, is that I've got to teach it all to some extent to most of the students.Dr. Viragohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03960384082670286328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7188858439852729115.post-54021934838242617152010-06-04T10:48:41.241-05:002010-06-04T10:48:41.241-05:00A powerful work ethic. Some understanding of the ...A powerful work ethic. Some understanding of the Big Picture of literary periods and how they fit together. Appreciation and enthusiasm for even the kind of literature they don't want to specialize in.Inkhttp://inktopia.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.com